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. >>> they are talking about the fiscal cliff but no word of any significant progress. this comes as another republican says he is willing to break ranks on the standoff. he said he could increase tax rates for upper income americans as part of a plan to cut the federal deficit. some are now looking for a way to save faces a they give in. >>> and they are planning for massive budget cuts as the fiscal cliff talks remain deadlocked. tens of thousands of jobs are on the line here in california. pam for months, pentagon leaders are insisting they are not preparing for major cuts but that's all changing under orders from the white house and they are starting to think about how they will face part of their budget. leon panetta said the cuts will be devastating to our national defense. experts predict, 1 in 5 in california will be lost. no now the arrow space reports -- now the arrow space reports 13 5,000 jobs will be lost along with 9,000 agency jobs for a total of 22 5,000 jobs lost in california over the next few years. the pentagon has said, the army would likely face the steepest cuts. reporting live,
signs of some serious talking when it comes to taking care of the fiscal cliff. >> jessica doyle is here with more on the growing fears about what could happen if the stop signs aren't thrown up in time. >> good morning to both of you. we continue to see the situation play out like a high stakes game of chicken. the white house is saying publicly it will let the nation go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't fall in line with the president's demands to raise taxes on the rich. the g.o.p. is pointing fingers, too. you don't have to look too hard in washington these days to see the fiscal cliff theater. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> our goal is to make sure it gets solved. >> the president is ready, willing and able, waiting to be able to sit down and seriously negotiate this. but they have to be willing to come to the table with specifics. >> the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give your answer where we're going. >> some lawmakers are actually going back home to their districts. congress has little scheduled b
. the fiscal cliff is actually constructive from the standpoint it causes people to come together and compromise because going over the cliff while we may do it for a short time period is not beneficial to anybody. it hurts everybody. >> so risk assets being, what, technology? what does that mean, technology? >> not necessarily. we would stay with dividend payers. we would also dip our toe into europe into some very high-quality, multicountry stocks there. mostly on consumer discretionary stocks as well. >> george, we haven't forgotten you yet. scott, i have a question for you. just noticed today france and germany's stock markets hit 52-week highs. we're still wringing our hands over the debt crisis, and the equity markets are hitting new highs for the year. is it too late to get into those markets? >> i don't think so, bill, at all. all the european markets are up for the year except portugal, which is up slightly. even greece is up year to date. i don't think you're too late on that trade at all. in fact, i think, quite frankly, the structural changes that are happening in euro
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the national debt and avoid the fiscal cliff. that's coming up in just a little bit. >>> we also can't leave seattle without taking note of another huge milestone in washington state. voters legalized same-sex marriage last month too so today here's the picture. midnight on the dot clerks handed out marriage licenses and those were the first two in line. they met on a blind date back in 1977 and they never thought that they would live to legally wed amongst all of these other people who showed up for their legal licenses in seattle. by the way, the ceremony of those elderly ladies like many others will take place this sunday. ♪ [ male announcer ] shift the balance of power decisively in your favor. the exclusive eight-speed transmission and rotary shifter in the new 2013 ram 1500. engineered to move heaven and earth. guts. glory. ram. yeah we both relieve coughs, sneezing, aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. [ female announcer ] holiday cookies are
.6% contraction in the economy because of manufacturers concerns about the fiscal cliff that's coming up. and the report also showed that if we go over the cliff, meaning if we just go over it in the first few days of next year, that we could have a 13% cumulative contraction in the gdp between now and 2015. and 6 million jobs lost. now, a lot of those will come from small and medium sized manufacturers who just aren't willing to take the risk, but i think you're talking to doug in a little bit and larger companies like caterpillar and doug is the incoming chair of the national association of manufacturers, companies like caterpillar rely on those supply chains. so they want to make sure that the small and medium sized manufacturers are just as healthy as the larger. >> jay, thank you. we appreciate your time this morning. >>> coming up, police arresting john mcafee. the details next. as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee
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not really helped the employment side, but the fiscal cliff is doing obvious damage. that's going to make what everybody knows is coming. we ran out of two years to sell. they're going to go from a twist to outright purchases. it's fully built into the market, but it isn't going to help. the fiscal cliff is going to do more damage to the psyche of job creation than anything that ben bernanke can do. >> any expectations in terms of the jobs numbers? what do you look for? >> we're looking for better than expected. rit, the sandy effect will be there. you should see actually better job growth next year, and that also becomes that second catalyst into the marketplace that could put the s&p at an all-time high next year. >> what about the fiscal cliff though? if we take out the mortgage deduction, which is being hotly debated in terms of the exemptions and loopholes, does that stop this housing recovery in its tracks? >> if you pick a midpoint between 0% and 3.5% and call it a fiscal slope, 1.5% drag next year is equivalent to the drag we have this year from the overall private sector. without
the fiscal cliff deal has come to? why 81-year-old former senator alan simpson is going gangnam style to get everyone's attention on debt. >> it has officially jumped the shark. >>> alan st. pierre is the executive director for the national,or for the reform of marijuana laws. oregon senator jeff merkley, heidi ewing, and rachel grady will be joining us. steve satich, ohio congressman, steve latourette, and ambassador nick burns are our guests this morning. it's thursday, december 6th, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. our starting point this morning, some major developments to tell you about in egypt, after angry protests against political moves by the president, mohamed morsi, have turned deadly. tanks, armored personnel vehicles, all stationed outside the presidential analysis cairo. not only are they guarding the palace, they're also keeping apart supporters and opponents of morsi. hundreds of his islamist supporters already taking to the streets in cairo this morning. opponents are gathering not very far away. last night the two sides clashed right outside t
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there's extreme worry about the fiscal cliff. i'm peggy fox. coming up what county leaders are doing to try to stop it. >> reporter: i'm kristin fisher in a maintenance yard for the national park service where a group of 5th graders are learning everything that goes into planning for a presidential inauguration. do they have what it takes? find out coming up. >> and you know, redskins fans are not the only ones in love with rg3. his opponents are in awe, as they should be. we'll hear what ravens head coach john harbaugh is afraid of. wo up with ts horrle sh on right sid iense burni sensaon sd, you hadhickenxe, en yosa, yes, i d.irl. d't think ybody er thinks th're goi get shings. but itappeneto me. r re of the side sry, visit shinesinfoom >>> this sunday will mark the first time in four years the redskins and ravens face off in the regular season. this time there's a whole lot on the line. baltimore is just one win from clinching a playoffs spot while rg3 has the redskins back in the hunt for the postseason. recently i sat down with ravens head coach john harbaugh and the burgund
're talking about the fiscal cliff. well, the fiscal cliff has many components. it may be broken into many different bills that come before this body. would end to get rid of the motion to proceed so we can get those bills to the floor so we can debate them. we need to make sure that if a group say, let's block in bill from the final vote, that think express their views accountably before the public. it's the least that should happen. so the senate is headed out for the weekend. we'll be back next week, and i ask for the american public to weigh in, to think about the fact that this hidden process is hurting our ability to address the biggest issues in america. i ask my colleagues to wrestle with that. and, mr. president, it is my hope that folks will hold those conversations with the public back home. i have done so in every county of my state, through my town halls. i hold one in every county every year. i have raised this issue of whether or not when folks vote for debate they should be required to debate, they should be required to make their case, not to kill bills in the dark of nigh
it comes to the fiscal cliff. but tim geithner just told cnbc that we're going to go over the cliff unless tax rates go up. at the same time, two dozen republican house members signed a bipartisan letter with democrats defecting from the boehner plan. in the meantime, a nice game for the day for the dow, but a stunning selloff for apple. do you know what? fiscal cliff or not, the s&p 500 is up 12% year to date. that is a handsome gain for investors, an optimistic year, believe it or not. and we already bailed out detroit's auto industry. but now, at least one motown politician is telling president obama he should bail out detroit bankrupt city government, too. this sure isn't the free market, and i asked why should a texas taxpayer bail out detroit? >>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president obama was warning about? >> well, not quite yet. u.s. officials tell us that the syrian military is poised
. >> reporter: anticipating the fiscal cliff and massive layoffs that could come with it, democrats called on lawmakers to continue an extension to jobless benefits expiring this year. >> now they're at risk of losing their last lifeline. >> reporter: 25 days left, no deal yet. republicans are worried they may be losing ground on the tax hike debate. and a new poll shows the majority of voters trust the president and democrats on the issue. reporting live on capitol hill, danielle lee, news4. >>> polls show many americans want hillary clinton to run for president in 2016, but that doesn't seem to be on top of her to-do list as she steps down as secretary of state. mrs. clinton is in dublin ireland, today on one of one of her last foreign trips. she admitted she's looking forward to the quiet life. >> i'm, frankly, looking forward to returning to living a life that enjoys a lot of simple pleasures, and gives me time for family and friends and other pursuits. >> mrs. clinton was also asked if president clinton will become the new ambassador to ireland. she said her husband will continue the
the fiscal cliff when nothing we're doing is coming close to deal with these issues. melissa: we talk about how hard it is to simplify the tax code. our guest before you guys said the same thing. it could be really simple. we could put out three rates for people with absolutely no deductions exceptions. if you're in this group you pay 35% or whatever. make up your number. >> right. melissa: if you're in this group pay 30, and this group pay 25. no exceptions, no deductions that would be one page tax code. whats wro with that, michael. >> because we live in a complex country with complex countr you don't want people, somebody with $50,000 of emergency medicalxpenses exactly the same as somebody who doesn't have those things? you want to tree somebody, the fact of the matter is you want to lance between simplicity and targeting. you want to balance between fairness and revenue. you need to make these - melissa: who dids decides what is fair? get out there and we pick nners and losers we say who's problem is worth taxpayer dollars and who's problem is not the government's problem. and that's h
and in the fiscal cliff when it comes to that. ashley: certainly will. milton ms. rought at this, thanks for being with us for your perspective on the market when we see what happens in washington. thanks so much. >> thank you. tracy: he is oozing confidence in washington, isn't he? ashley: yes. dripping with sarcasm i think is more --. tracy: sham else about. i love that word. it's a shambles. there is so much more ahead this hour including a biotech ceo what is hurting innovation in the sector. you guessed it, obamacare. a corda's ron cohen is here. ashley: apple making lots of news with its stock swings. reports it is shifting production away from china back to the u.s. as we do this time every day, look how oil is trading. down nearly 2%. bun a buck 73 at 86.15 a barrel. we'd be right back there is no mass-produced human. every human being is unique. and there is one store tha. the sleep nuer store. the only place in the world you'll find the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. an exclusive collection of innovations that totally individualize your sleep. perfectly comfortable
you to spend $400 this holiday season. on one item. >> the showdown over the fiscal cliff. a new poll suggests president obama has the american people's support when it comes to taxing the wealthy. this poll shows nearly half of those surveyed once bush eras tax cuts to expire for those making more than $250,000 a year. the poll was taken last weekend. the questions did lean more to the men -- to the democratic party. eric cantor says republicans want to sit down with the president and talk specifics. president obama spoke with business executives, calling for a balanced approach combining taxes with cuts. the president rejected a gop counter offer, which targeted government cuts but did not add any new taxes. if the deal is not reached by january 1, everyone's taxes will go up and automatic spending cuts will go into affect. >> starbucks makes news for two reasons. why they want you to spend $450 this holiday season for one product. >> a would-be thief sets off a bomb next to an atm. what wins? pictures that will show you. >> feeling like >> ready ms from the district. police are loo
will come back to work next week hopefully to get a fiscal cliff deal. >> maybe the movie "lincoln" will inspire senators to work together. a special screening is scheduled for december 19th. senate aides said they will not screen the movie on the senate floor but somewhere else. >> michelle obama has said over and over again she never wants to run for office but a new poll shows her leading senator mark kirk in a very hypothetical matchup. the illinois republican had a stroke last year. >> tonight the entire obama family will gather around the christmas tree. it just happens to be the national christmas tree. it will take place at 5:00 eastern time. >> if you read only one thing this morning, maybe you're already thinking about your new year's resolution to get in better shape. how could you resist this headline? my must read is courtesy of prevention magazine. it's on facebook/jansingco. yep, they're real. we've got more rollbacks on toys all december. wait, was that real? [ male announcer ] this christmas, get the hottest brands and rollbacks on the season's hottest toys, like t
is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way this is playing out, i think that's a big risk for them. >> they're becoming the party of rich, white, older men, is what it seems to me. you can't think of any other section of american community that right now is thinking the republican party's for me. this isn't be a good place for them to find themselves. >> i think that's why the politics of this are, you know, make it quite po
convinced they are not going to come to an agreement on the fiscal cliff unless compelled to do so by an adverse external event like a sharply lower equity market. lou: and is, you know, i can't imagine a market ever going down as john is suggesting here simply because a government chooses not to function. >> well, if it means we're headed into recession, the markets will react. in a typical bear market, stocks sell off by 20%. it's great to have a compromise before the year end, but time is running out. it's not possible. lou: how is it that a treasury secretary responsible for the integrity of the markets, the currency, responsible, indeed, for the financial system of this country, largely, broadly, and internationally, would sink to the level of a political operative making statements about we're going over the fiscal cliff and we're ready to go. >> the president put him in charge of the negotiations from his point of view. lou: clever. >> he's wearing two hats at this point in time. consider here, yes, there's a big complicated negotiation that needs to take place, but there's
will push back on president obama's demand for tax hikes on the rich when it comes to the fiscal cliff. but treasury secretary timothy geithner says the white house will not give in. >> no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember it's only 2%. >> geithner adds the obama administration is, quote, absolutely prepared to go off the cliff, if necessary. joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an
of the u.s. are solid, despite the fiscal cliff concerns coming out of washington. she says stocks could get hit in the early part of the area if we go over the fiscal cliff, but the fundamentals of the economy are still good. >>> all right. apple stock dropped more than 6% yesterday. shares were down about half a percent in pre-market trading this morning. no concrete news pushing them down, but today there's another hearing in the patent case with samsung in california. and a tech research report generatored a lot of buzz that apple's tablet competitors could eat into its market share. >> interesting. >> thanks, christine. >>> well, the good news is, let's do the fiscal cliff and the good news. and it's not very much. but at least the two sides are talking, by phone. not face to face. house speaker john boehner and the president are hoping to break the fiscal cliff ice. now we're just mixing metaphors, left and right. speaking on the phone, 26 days left, of course, until we tumble over the cliff or slide down the slope or fall off the precipice or however you want to put it. we could,
. >> the president has known about the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in revenue, just gives them more to play with on capitol hill and more to spend. when we talk about fairness, when the top 2%, the $250,000 and above are already paying 45% of total income tax, that's a big question of fairness there too. >> who should nicki haley name to replace you? >> i talk today her today. i share the same philosophy, the conservative philosophy. i told her i trust her decision and i'm not going to push her one way or another. >> a lot of speculation, congressman scott? >> he's a wonderful person. our whole delegation is really strong. she's got a tough choic
republicans are holding the global economy hostage over the fiscal cliff. >> susie: and apple shares get of the most widely owned stocks sees heavy trading. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r." >> susie: big job cuts today at one of the nation's biggest banks. citigroup announced it's slashing 4% of its staff; that works out to 11,000 jobs worldwide. the cuts will save the bank more than $1 billion a year in expenses. but they won't be cheap, resulting in a billion-dollar charge against fourth-quarter earnings. is this gloomy news from citi the beginning of other companies doing the same? suzanne pratt reports. >> reporter: 11,000 jobs are a lot of layoffs, even for a bank as huge as citi. and there could be more. that's because the monster firm is still struggling to recover from the great recession even though it has fired a lot of other workers in the last few years. the thing is, citi has a new c.e.o. in michael corbat, and experts say he's anxious to make his mark, even if that includes cutting staff. and the need to slim down is not ique to citi; it's indtry- wide. a financial
risk not only coming out of europe, but also with the fiscal cliff negotiations. the bottom line is it's going to be very difficult to maneuver in tight spaces, so widen it out. for us that means in the s&p we want to pie 1340 to 1320, and as the market gets up to the 1430 area and above, we want to reduce our equity exposure. in the dow call it 12,5 to 13,5. in the nasdaq 100, 2400 to 2800. liz: okay, hold on. let me just hold on the s&p because that's what we have here. 1320 to 1340 buy in when it hits there, and can then, of course, sell. >> right. liz: so this requires real involvement on behalf of the investor, doesn't it? >> well, i -- the point is, liz, we, as i said, you've got a lot of headline risk, a lot of back and forth with the news stories. the point is to be disciplined. map those levels out, and then don't get caught in between. so i think if 1340 to 1320's a great place to add to your equity exposure, and then as we get up to the 1430 area and above, you want to reduce your equity exposure, and don't get caught in between. liz: sorry, i interrupted you because i wante
and democrats will kick the can down the road. and, remember, the fiscal cliff is not really a cliff. even if we come to january 1st, it's more of a hill and they actually have a little bit more time than people are giving them credit for. and that's why i think the markets are not overreacting right now. >> there's this notion that you can go over the cliff and sort of go back, grandfather it in. but at the same time, for a company like general dynamics, at what point do you start getting concerned it will, in fact, at least impact that quarter? >> well, that's a good point. it certainly could impact the quarter if it goes for weeks or months, absolutely. and i think maybe even the bigger factor is i think you talked about it which is there will be volatility as we approach the cliff and go over the cliff. even if it's a few days or few weeks. there will be a lot of volatility in the markets. that could be buying opportunities for all of us that have some dry powder for which to deploy. we tend to be more long-term holders. we tend to buy stocks and hold them for years rather than weeks and mon
issues in general when it comes to the fiscal cliff. if you have questions about tax issues or comments about how taxes should be included in these discussions, he will be taking your calls. up next, we're going to have a look at republicans and the fiscal cliff negotiations with radio talk-show host and columnist armstong williams. that is coming up next as we continue the "washington journal." ♪ >> why a writers institute? i think it is very important within the culture. we are a culture of words, of voices. words are key to our imagination, our capacity to envision things. we ourselves are not completely tied to print on the page. but i think that there is no other art form so readily accessible other than perhaps -- but it is something -- there is something in literature that captures the humans. . >> this weekend, we look behind the scenes at the history and literary life of new york's capital city, albany, on c-span to and it c-span3. span3.c- [bell rings] >> this weekend on c-span3, follow harry truman's eldest grandson to hiroshima. >> everybody has their own view of what happ
barnard has more. >> i hope he with can come together. it is important to avoid the fiscal cliff and to do it the right way. >> reporter: doing it the right with a depends on who you are speaking to. i asked chris van hollen what happens if the white house and republicans in congress cannot reach a deal by january 1st. >> it doesn't necessarily mean january 2nd the world falls apart. but what it does mean is, if you go into january, deeply into january without having resolved these issues, taxes will go up across the board on everybody. that is a big tax increase. >> reporter: and deep across the board spending cuts in defense and other areas of the federal government. >> the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. >> reporter: president obama says he will not sign a bill without a tax increase on incomes over $250,000. he met with a room full of ceos in washington today. >> i know that many of you have come down here to try to see, there a way we with break through the logjam and go ahead and get things done. and i'm here to t
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on the fiscal cliff as we should be, but we're looking at a national security cliff coming as well, bus you've got the middle east basically in many ways spiraling out of control. al-qaeda resurging across the region. a president who is sitting silently, the state department calling for calm. in egypt you've got people who want democracy rising up against the muslim brother hood who is not a friend of the united states,f the united states, and clearly we have put ourselves in a position but we don't have the ability to influence the outcome. >> sean: what's amazing to me, i mean, this is now being chronicled. the silence is deafening. >> right. >> sean: there's two instance where i think obama should have spoken up, and i don't think in the case of mubarak as imperfect as he was. i predicted and you and a few others predicted the muslim brother hood would take over. exactly what is happening was not unpredictable. but as i watch all of this unfold, he wasn't there for the iranian green movement. >> right. >> sean: he's not here now. what is he standing for? >> well, you had president obama
ne geithner announced of of the white house that we would, quote, absolutely go over the fiscal cliff which would trigger tax cuts and spending increases unless taxes increase on the top two percent of wage earnings. >> i want you you to understand when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> all right. it appears the very definition of the american dream is now being rewritten by president barack obama. now, today our commander-in-chief publicly said he's not going to play games with the fiscal cliff, but that is just not reality. right now the president is playing a very dangerous game of chicken and this is with your paycheck and the american dream. meanwhile, the republicans have allowed themselves to get caught in a circular firing squad. they're negotiating publicly among themselves while true conservatives and tea party members are being removed from ke
of what he had to say regarding the fiscal cliff and the threat that looms. let me play it. >> when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000, if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. >> so is it a bluff when the obama administration says they're willing to go off the cliff if a deal is not reached on rates? >> i don't think it's a bluff. if you look at the reality of what happens, all the leverage which i -- right now clearly the white house has. they get more leverage if we go over their cliff. you can argue that would not send a good message to the country, to the world. it would prove that we are dysfunctional and cannot govern, et cetera, et cetera. in terms of dealing with the policy problem, which is you have this massive and growing debt, you have to bring in more revenues. there's multiple ways to do it, but critical ways to raise rates on the top end. it was what
to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to another hike in the nati's debt ceing. >> we're not going to play that game next year. if congress, in any way suggests they tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the ink of default again as part of a budget negotiation, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their meeting with small business owners and denied they are trying to punt until next year. >> i'll be here. i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with g.o.p. leaders in weeks and not offered a counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> frankly, it was the balanced apoach the president's be asking for. we need a response from the white house. >> reporter: the president continues to envies the only impediment to t deal is boehner's $800 million in tax revenue is not enough. >> the hold upright now is that speaker boehne
will indeed go over the cliff. >> they say good things come to those who wait except maybe in the case of the fiscal cliff. timothy geithner said the administration will absolutely take the leap. but some say both sides could wait till january to get down to business without any big economic consequences. the expiration of the bush tax cuts forcing tax rates higher on 90% of americans won't be felt right away. some economists actually call this the fiscal float instead of the cliff because the impact would be felt gradually. however, "the wall street journal" reports others sharply disagree. they argue that quickly undoing the damage double from the cliff dive would have big consequences. some possible ways here. it could prompt sell-offs on wall street. we've already seen those. it could also further dampen consumer confidence in washington. we saw that during the debate last year over raising the federal debt ceiling. >>> looking overseas, it's interesting to get a read on how other countries are perceiving the fiscal cliff fight on capitol hill. the"the washington post" ran through
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